Do you have a problem with this model? They eventually had to replace them with the Makarov series because of over-penetration. Mountain lion attacks on humans, however, are rare in Colorado, with Colorado Parks and Wildlife counting fewer than 20 over the past 30 years. A 10mm Glock is not going to be too . Same applies to the Redhawk if you insist on a DA. Honestly for a Mountain Lion a human does not have a good chance when it comes down to human w/ knife vs mountain lion, but I do recommend he has a knife in case he would be knocked to the ground or a last resort. Its the sick, injured, old one that will risk human contact. If the Hellsing 454 Casull is ever made (semi- auto), I want one. , .357 mag. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. The cougar was probably at the end of the rage stage, where attacks on almost anything are common. RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. Always do your homework before entering any unfamiliar land, especially bear infested areas so you will be acquainted with these and other survival techniques including escape routes should you encounter an emergency situation. His cousin, the brown bear, is an entirely different story; when a brown bear means business you need to stop the threat and stop it fast, by any means necessary. If I am packing meat, I carry it in a shoulder holster. Ive literally seen .38 spl ricochet of the skulls of hogs, later being found somewhere between the hide and muscle upon skinning. Its much harder to retrieve spent brass fired from a semi-auto There is an interesting compilation of mountain lion incidents and attacks titled: Cougar Attacks & Other Incidents -2000 to date. If not, always nice to have to many guns.. After wearing out a few S&W frames in 44mag, I switched to the short barreled Ruger Alaskan in 44mag. Its been years since Ive regularly shot revolvers. Just no big name in the periodicals. Natural enemies include other large predators such as bears, lions, and wolves. Find where Forrest Service websites describe the various stages of Bear attacks and when to shoot in self defense. My new Ruger Super Blackhawk can handle hot + P 45 colt loads. why dont you buy a BB gun for backup. Mountain lions actually have the largest hind legs (proportionally) of all the members of the cat family. In most cases, a 22 caliber rifle will not be able to kill a mountain lion. I usually carry it in a cross-draw holster that allows me to ride a horse or ATV. 10 mm, the old lady behind me at checkout at Cabelas asked me why I was buying so much ammo. Really. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. None of the planned gun laws have any impact on bolt-action rifles as far as I'm aware (except perhaps limiting magazine capacity if it has one), and to be extra safe you could get a bolt-action rifle without a detachable magazine. Option to use 45 colt 454 cas and 460 mag. For those not familiar with this gun, think Dirty Harry. The .44 Magnum is definite bear medicine. Good article. Yes, the first round was the fatal round but it didnt stop the bear. My Glock 10 mm w/ 15 + 1,in Department spokesperson Peter Tira told LA Times: "It's been a day-to-day, hourly kind of situation. Pretty cool! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Cork Grahams rig. Radically Invasive Projectile G2 ammo works! I enjoyed the article. Colorado Springs, Colo. The craggy mesas and sagebrush valleys of the West have a wild horse problem. having confidence in your weapon. The Smith & Wesson 329 PD is by far the best handgun choice for self-defense against bears and boars while out and about in the woods. With a 3-inch barrel and a six-shot cylinder combining for a weight of just 25 ounces, this gun was made to be both carried and shot. Not only does it take time to shoot, but it's also not enough to stop a cougar from coming at you. 7 tours of duty (Coast Guard) and 11 years of volunteer EMT3 doing Bush & Mountain rescue all over Alaska, 10 years as AK Hunter Safety instructor and professional brown bear photographer + successful hunter and competition shooter, and trapper. The lion had killed the livestock but had not eaten them, The Mercury News reported. Owing to circumstances at their place, I wasnt able to go. Colt Magnum June 7, 2018 At 19:23. I see a lot of Blackhawk advocates. Lets hope that we can all avoid the threat of mauling, but if youre unfortunate enough to have it happen to you, be prepared. I have always heard, or read, that one should use heavy for caliber, hard cast lead bullets for bear. The third racoons I shot was hit behind the heart lung area with a 7.62x 25 , it flinched from the shot, turned, growled, and continued towards a timbered embankment and possible escape. I will take it to heart and now that Ive learned the 4 3 1 rule Ill not forget it, and not fail to abide by it while in bear country, and quite probably every time Im hunting. My other handgun, my day-to-day gun, is a well-worn Smith & Wesson Model 36, in .38 Special. I would have no reservation about using it on a mountain lion. My 10mm load is right at 700. If you get to take a shot while standing, you should be making an effort to evade an attack while at the ready. His dad stopped a charging brown with a .500 S&W pistol a few years ago. Mountain Lions are extremely fast, territorial, and capable of seriously injuring and killing even an adult human. Next post: AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, Previous post: Waterfowl Artillery: CZ Swamp Magnum, Your email address will not be published. Moutain Lions arent bear-zombie-meat-tanks. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. Hell no! My grandparents have a home on rockytop Tennessee, with a few caves. If you are confronted by a bear, leave the deer or food and do not run as this triggers the predators instinct to charge after you as prey. I would recomend holding off until the bear is so close that he would be hard to miss and then not shooting any higher than nostril level. He said he was not scared of all the trips he made. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. tell me want have you really killed lately. If you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for 400+ pound bears, wild boars, and feral hogs, you are carrying way too much gun for coyotes and small mountain lions. A rabid animal is something you do not even want to touch. .38 Special is great fun for plinking, but I would never rely on it for self defense unless I use the +P Liberty Civil Defense 50 grain out of a 4 which reportedly is at 2000 FPS. Until you dump a 15 rd mag into some calibrated ballistics gel, hold your amateur and mis-informed comments for all the other mommys wanna bes. Practice with light loads and carry it with one of Pearces 22k psi heavy loads. Holy shit! He said not really. Most exhibit the same irrational fear of bears as the rest of the country and irrational fear does little to generate rational ideas. A bear spray story- A California man has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and other penalties for the killing of a protected mountain lion over the summer. Found the bullet in the other ear, Weighed 270 grains. Yes and no.. Merrill, Oregon (Klamath County). In Alaska, meat is often removed from a kill site via a frame pack and two strong legs, and all that blood creates a scent trail like a flashing All-you-can-eat buffet advertisement. Do you have a rare 5-shot model, or just down to your last five cartridges for the photo shoot? Thousands of empty Ancient Churches that have been converted into libraries and or apartment buildings are testament to that. Hardcast bullets and accuracy! Nine for the bear and the 10th for me if the nine didnt work. based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The reverse is not true. you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? For more information about Smith & Wesson, click here. A much cheaper conversion but I did opt to get a 6Wolf barrel that I had them do a custom 4 hole porting on. Seriously funny ! Key Points: No dog, regardless of the breed, would be able to take on a full-grown mountain lion solo. These lions belong there. If a domestic animal (pet/livestock) is injured or killed by a mountain lion, the owner has the legal right in California to have the mountain lion killed. Most of the revolvers mentioned in this article are double action. Planning to go, I figured that I didnt have the right gun for a possible bear encounter. 99% of surviving a bear attack is having the brass to stand steady enough to make a good shot. In your expert opinion is my 44mag redhawk with LBT heat treated solids weighing 300 grains adequate? Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. My gun will push the strong 300-grain hollowpoints to just under 1,200 fps, and thats a formula that can end a confrontation. I looked at my knife on my hip and quickly decided thst wouldnt work. Ill take the capacity of an auto loader in 45 Super, 10mm or Rowland any day. Mace or a .45 Colt? Unfortunately, an enraged bear will knock you down before your gun clears leather. The Casull is an updated and slightly elongated version of the .45 Colt, fully capable of firing .45 Colt ammunition. You'd be much, much better off with bear spray. There is no doubt that bigger and more powerful handguns are preferable for hunting but self protection at close range differs greatly from hunting as it requires quick, often multiple hits, from close range while under extreme stress. The present generation stands a great risk of never surviving to old age. Couple Im friends with have a vacation home in NW Montana(we all live in So. A doe once got a hoof caught in the top of a cyclone fence, near our property. They have been conditioned to hear a gun and equate it to a free meal. I dont plan to go out in the woods or scrubs any more but the S&W 629 with a 8 & 3/8 barrel Ive owned for 25 years will serve me well against black bears or hogzillas here in sunny Florida should the need arise. Just holes. Our neighbor asked if I would come over and put it down. Bear spray is actually bear fogger and comes out in a finely atomized mist with absolutely no chance of moving against even the faintest of breezes. While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. Id wager that Ive walked within feet of bear and cougar many times without realizing that they were there. You should first attempt to fire a warning shot to scare off the lion before it attacks. I am reminded of a survival show that aired a few years ago. Then you could shoot them from a distance and up close and personal, and I dont care if it is heavy, power is knowing your prepared ! If I cant do it with that then I guess I was destined to lose that fight. I can hit an outboard engine at 100 yards. . My rule of thumb is the minimum is 4-3-1. 300 grains is on the low end for 50ae. There are some real men out there who have seen a bear in a zoo and have shot their 500 SW 4 times 6 years ago. Not being a cougar hunter, didnt pay much attention to it. 1. I also have a small Freedom Arms in .500 Wyoming Express. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. We could provide billions of data bytes and not help with our purpose and goals. Definitely not in the same category as a Mounain lion. Very interesting. That long pipe makes for a heavier gun, but Im OK with that because the additional sighting distance and small velocity gain are both appreciated. OMG! mountain lion primarily subsists on large ungulates, small mammals including porcupine, hares and rabbits, ground squirrels, and beaver may also supplement its diet. I purchased the gun from the nephew of an Alaskan Guide who had to kill several large browns with this same revolver. Unless you are an expert hand-gunner with tons of real world experience.. carry a rifle and have the pistol as backup. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. However, they also prove a nuisance to local livestock. Bears, wild critters, thats all very nice and fluffy. I love packing iron, but in a 44 mag, 300 grain load minimum for bigger critters. The group was less than four inches and the ammo was full-power Winchester factory loads so it was full recoil. Carry big. They are not fun to shoot, not fun to carry. Im still alive without a scratch. Although lighter than what one would think of as bear protection, the authors .38 Special is extremely compact, lightweight and portable. He told the cameraman Ive killed bears with this gun. And no, I do not bother with bear spray. If you are entering bear inhabited areas, be prepared for the worst situation by having a firearm with sufficient foot-pounds to stop a bear attack. There are too many variables involved to deliberatly under gun yourself on a planned trip in bear country. In the question of "Is the .22 LR Long Rifle within the ideal range of suitable calibers for cougar or . I am a handgun hunter who lives in Wyoming and hunts the Beartooth. Two young men from SoCal (where else?) Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. 10 mm HAH why not hit the Bear with your Purse? This would include insanely lar. He put his paw on his shoulder. Lightweight and well-balanced, I had a chance to spend a bit of time with this wheelgun at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas. They are most active between dusk and dawn, and generally avoid contact with humans. All cats are rats. Hard cast bullet are the best for bear defense, they will penetrate like nothing else out there. Handloads push a 300-grain to just over 1,000 fps, so it just cracks the code. I have concerns with shooting the higher pressure .45 LC rounds, like the Buffalo Bore 325 grain load. I carry either my Ruger Alasken 44 mag, or my Ruger GP 100 in 44 Special with custom loaded 255 gr. Ok Rambo ! Required fields are marked *. Great article, even better advise-44 mag super redhawk will be on my side when the opportunity comes my way. Think youre gonna penetrate his skull with your pea shooter? Mountain lions have been terrorizing livestock in Lake County over the past weeks, and this was not the first instance to be reported to authorities. Self-Defense, Take it from someone who has been nose to nose with many big bears by accident if youre going into bear country willingly take as big a double action revolver as you can keep all rounds in the target black. A brown bears a Swiss mil-spec mugger, with built-in armor all over, especially around the brain. I heard that some hikers on Mt. I use it on my sailboat for protection in the Bahamas, to take out boat engines. Robert Rourke famously said, Use enough gun.. Hard cast lead or perhaps some modern all brass penetrators would probably be better. Plus spray gives you a non-lethal way of dealing with somebody's "loving" pet. Good stuff. God Bless old Friend. Mountain lions are normally very secretive and cautious. I . Handloaded in a Blackhawk as described in my earlier post, the .45 outdoes the .44 mag. Told me to that towards evening they made Camp during Daylight Hours. With a double-action police type service revolver I can unload all six spent shell casings into the palm of my hand and thus Last time I was buying bulk ammo in 5.56 mm NATO, 9 mm, .40 Smith, .44 Mag and ( nothin) lol. Your .357 magnum should be fine and easier to get off a second shot on target. A shotgun with buck shot would be handy if it is in your yard. As far as I am concerned the best handgun for a person is one they are familiar and competent with. The mountain lion also occasionally preys on domestic livestock and pets. State officials have issued a permit allowing a rancher to kill P-45, a mountain lion believed to be responsible for the recent killings of livestock near Malibu, Calif. (National Park Service via AP) For both wilderness/rural vs. urban/metro I cannot You could get pretty close to a semi-auto .454 Casull if you had a .440 Cor-Bon Desert Eagle. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. That is a political and social problem.. Even for dispatching At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. The police standard is not to let a person get closer than 21 feet with a weapon like a knife, club etc with out being engaged. That combo gets exceptional penetration you just have to have a revolver that can handle it like that the Ruger, Freedom Arms, etc. However, please dont cast aspersions toward those who have done their own homework and made their own best choices. What would make a good companion piece [long gun] regardless of sidearm? Needless to say, the culprits were evicted, the wing was evacuated and the room needed to be completely gutted and refinished. Dick Casulls brainchild improves the ballistics of the .45 Colt even in modern handguns and provides an entirely different performance level for those who can handle it. The compilation lists 61 mountain lion attacks that resulted in injuries in the 16 and a half years, and at least 31 cases where attacks were thwarted by aggressive action. Now, my colleague and fellow Alaskan Phil Shoemaker has effectively defended himself with a 9mm against a charging brown bear, but I prefer to carry a .45 ACP with me as my round. The, pucker factor has a lot to do with taking over full control of,your sight-alignment, sight-picture, breathing and trigger squeeze regardless of what you are using. This may not have been a great time for firearm but it begs the questions: (1) What's a good caliber to stop a cat at 3 - 20 yds, and (2) what kind of round (solid, hollow point)? When it comes to wheel guns should they be ported? Rifle first if at all possible. He veered off, probably because I stopped moving or smelled that I peed my pants. There are no stopping calibers; only stopping shots. At night you may wish a good shotgun and buck shot. The mountain lion will most likely attempt to tackle you and crush your skull or bite your throat. It took two more rounds to bring it down, running about 60 yards. Florida State Lawmakers Introduce 'Constitutional Carry', The Staccato CS Brings Real Performance to the Concealed, Meet ROSE: SIG SAUER's Complete Concealed Carry Solution for, Honolulu Issues First Concealed Carry License. FMJ. .45 Colt may be questionable, but better than a .38. Were they harder to kill then healthy racoons, no. Made me wonder Dont these manufacturers know that hard cast is more effective? Perhaps they were just given that name to sound scary, but are really made for 2 legged predators? This attack from 2008 shows the utility of a handgun for defense against predators in the wild. The lion ignored the adults in the group and went right for the children. You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. I was very intrigued by their weapons selection. 45 & 9mm do not get past the fat layer to break bones and damage vital organs. Absolute .357 Mag in a revolver for me is a minimum. Nobody sane confronts a bear with a pistol, the 480 is not perfect for the job. .357, .44 mag, 10mm. She hid, and downed it with one behind the ear at very close range, and followed up with five more (all the bullets she had) to make sure. Mountain lion facts. But .380's tend to be small handguns, and with a mountain lion if it's within the accurate range of a small pocket gun you're likely already dead. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. Commander. 3-6 .357 mag with 200g hardcast at 1250fps or more, depending on barrel length. coyotes A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. Even if it is based upon a reasonable extrapolation from current self defense doctrine. I call those DGUs as easily as a person on person. Good responses. Scientific Evidence regarding bear spray?.. The child was scratched by the cats paw when the lion was spooked by gunfire. A moose attacked me on my property when I first moved here, but it was because I was trying to get close enough for a good picture really DUMB! Yes. against a pack of feral dogs a .38 Special is highly effective and lethal. The Inuit hunters would wait at a breathing hole in the ice. Excellent article! All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: I doubt that I have walked past a moose without noticing. It was the first handgun I ever purchased, and I put a considerable amount of thought into it. Spent half my working career in Alaska, hunted, fished, hiked. Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. thanks again from a Liberal Gun Toting Okie! The Marine carried an AR15/M4 .223 REM/5.56MM. Can mountain lions jump? . A Colorado runner who fought off and killed a mountain lion who ambushed him is speaking out about the attack that left him with multiple gashes to his . the sidearm nicely supplements the rifle, as a companion piece. My close friend and ex-county sheriff assures me that, unless you are acting like an idiot, most sheriffs here in Colorado will just shake your hand and wish you a good day, IF they happen to see your with a magazine with > 15 rounds. It is not that you have to out run the bear, you just have to out run the slowest member of your party. There is a lot of nonsense out on the internet from people who have never seen a bear and have probably never cut up a dead critter to see what a bullet will do. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. If it was acting as weird as they say, they were idiots for not assuming that it was rabid. In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. 9mm is acceptable against two legged foes, but with an angry mountain lion you want something with some real punch to it. There was a Professor who during the 50s and 60s working with the US Forrest Service..spent a great deal of time studying bears and bear attacks. This article leaves folks thinking their 45 or 9mm or single action is excellent bear medicine the fact is they are just poor at best. Fortunately I was about 80 yds. No HPs! DRT. Hard cast is king. A 629 classic 44 Mag. Not an expert by any means, just always loved the horribilis in the name, denoting the end result of chance meeting with an angry Grizzly in a dark alley. 6. You cant load the right ammo for bear defense, but its better than a sharp stick. In ordinary life, people are much more likely to be attacked by another person, than by a mountain lion. While Snap decisions in day to day life are a bad idea.. Winchester lists their .410 GA slugs as 1800 feet per second. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. 07-11-2013, 08:10 AM. Ultimately, some gun is better than no gun, and too much gun that youre unable to get proficient with is a problem. May 12, 2018. In this case, fortunately, the uncle had time to retrieve the handgun from a vehicle. A Utah friend of mine called to ask about using a .38 Special with a 4" barrel as a trail gun and a defensive gun in the mountains of his home state. I almost needed a new clean pair of drawers. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. The .454 Casull is my usual choice as it provides a good balance of power with manageability. For more information about Federal ammunition, click here. Im a pistol guy now, and except for my Ruger Super Red Hawk, I seldom shoot revolvers. 45acp . In the early hours of 25 November 2016, the day after . I decently placed 5.56 will kill anything in north america. 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