The effects of the 58,000 acre Warm Fire during the summer of 2006 appear to be largely positive for the foreseeable future with an incredible aspen, forb, and grass response being noted. The majority of elk in this unit are located on National Forest lands in the southern part of the unit. Many hunters go home disappointed that they did not see big bucks on the early hunt, but every hunter should do their homework and know what they should expect on a hunt before setting high expectations. The Department reminds hunters that bison within these hunt areas are at low densities or may not be present during the hunt. The Warm Springs and Nail Canyon areas in 12AW, the Cocks Combs area in 12AE, and the Paria Platea have seen harvests in recent years and are good starting points. This may be a good place to introduce yourself and your site or include some credits. You know when they say that something sounds too good to be true then A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. This area is very isolated and will require 4-wheel drive for the soft sandy roads. If you are considering hunting mountain lions in Unit 12 for the first time, consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase you likelihood of success. Areas:Any areas with concentrations of deer often have lions associated with them. Often roosting turkeys will respond to these calls giving a hunter a location to begin the mornings hunt. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. Current data indicates that buck:doe ratios are excellent. During the cooler months, elk will occasionally move south to the Kaibab from southern Utah. Game and fish would rather have hunters do it legally. Elk Hunting in Arizona Game Management Unit 12A Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. Remember, 30 bucks are special because they are extremely, extremely rare. If you have a 12B tag and are trying to decide whether to hunt 12BW or the Paria Plateau, there are a few additional things that you should consider. Deer are can be found in the open sagebrush flats, but not until snow pushes them out of the trees. The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Dreams have been realized, or shattered, on every hunt in this Unit since its inception. Unit 3a/3c - second choice. There are only a few conveniences provided along Hwy 89A in the small communities of Vermilion Cliffs, Cliff Dwellers, Marble Canyon and Jacob Lake. Areas: It may be hard to believe but the likelihood of running into an older age class buck, as near as the author can tell, is just about equal almost anywhere on the plateau. These units are specifically managed for wildlife values other than elk, and an established elk population is not desirable. Please contact the USFS North Kaibab Ranger District for further information at the phone number listed below. Having extra spare tires would also be a good idea. With conditions slowly improving in the burned area of 12AW, and with the initiation of a landscape scale habitat restoration effort, the outlook for the Kaibab deer herd is indeed very optimistic. Make sure that you can access the area before taking the shot. The Kaibab has supplied many happy hunting experiences in the past and will hopefully continue to do so for generations to come. However, for the past few years, bison have been seen near Wall Lake, as well as along Forest Service Roads 219B, 223, 270, and 610. 586. The Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah, 84770, phone (435) 688-3200 manages the majority of unit 12B. Scuba Certification; Private Scuba Lessons; Scuba Refresher for Certified Divers; Try Scuba Diving; Enriched Air Diver (Nitrox) Find areas overlooking large open expanses and plan on sitting still for hours on end and glassing until you feel like your eyes are going to fall out. AS a reminder: Dont stand really close to edge, the sandstone/ granite crumbles with very little weight or movement, you dont want to see the bottom or top, depending on which way your falling on the way down. Hunting in the bottom of the Paria Canyon requires hiking with wet feet in sandy terrain along the Paria River. Large numbers of domestic sheep grazed on the Paria Plateau, Vermilion Cliffs, and Paria Canyon until the 1960s when the Bureau of Land Management converted all grazing permits to cattle only. Being in position at first shooting light can be critical as the big boys are often bedded down for the day within minutes of the sun breaking the horizon. Send us an email at [emailprotected] to learn more. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. About Us; Staff; Camps; Scuba. According to Arizona Game and Fish, Hunt No. The bottom line you may have to wait almost a quarter of your life to get a tag to go hunting in . Practice with a flat shooting rifle at longer distances before the hunt begins. Antlerless Hunting: After several years of antlerless hunting, many of the does on the plateau have become as hunter-wise as most bucks. Learn More. Finally, remember that you could be sitting in the office and enjoy the opportunity to get away and take part in the oldest most admirable sport there is. The highest densities of bighorn sheep are going to be in the Paria Canyon-Vermillion Cliffs Wilderness Area from above the community of Vermillion Cliffs to Bush head. Also, before the hunt begins, study topo maps and enlist the aid of others who have hunted the area before. Please contact any department office for additional information or to purchase an elk OTC tag. Under alternative management these favorable ratios should be maintained or even improved. During December, sheep are generally found at lower elevations on the talus slopes below the steep cliff faces. The elevation in this area ranges from 3,000' to 7,000'; vegetation ranges from riparian cottonwood-willow and salt cedar along the Gila River, to Chihuahuan Desert in the lower elevations a Elk hunting in this unit can be extremely difficult due to the terrain. The state is world famous for huge elk and inversely proportional low draw odds with our Arizona Big Game Draw. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of 19. Birds are usually found in isolated coveys, and can (usually do) descend thousands of feet into inaccessible canyons after being flushed. By this time of year the deer are visiting water in the dark. Note: The state line is only marked at dirt road crossings. Hunters can report their mountain lion harvest in person, by telephone at 1-877-438-0447, or online. That is not a problem since the other units may not have any elk at all. Check stock tanks for elk use (tracks) prior to the season. Read about advertising on huntscore here. Finally, mule deer throughout their range are altering their behavior as hunting pressure increases. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. From the East: U.S. Hwy 89A The squirrel is dark in color, has tufted ears, and has a large white bushy tail. If you are considering hunting mountain lions on the Kaibab for the first time consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase your likelihood of success. Arizona units down on the border can also provide some good mule deer hunting. Dont get me wrong i am a serious as they come bird hunter and by far my favorite hunt to do , just huge bulls have always intrigued me and wish one day i could afford to chase a record class bull, I have seen some very good bulls just west of Bryce Canyon NP. Seems like an expensive camping and hiking excursion in a beautiful part of the country with good friends and maybe a random elk. If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. Lost Canyon Hunts. During the fall hunt gas, food, and lodging can be found in Fredonia, Jacob Lake, and near DeMotte Park. Blue Grouse, Kaibab Squirrel, Merriams Turkey, Mountain Lion, Mule Deer. The previous year a few elk were seen and even taken there, and since I had been drawn for elk the previous year I took a chance and was drawn. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Tree stands up or down canyon from waters can be excellent and reduce the inevitable territorial dispute with other hunters over the waterhole. Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! If you are considering hunting mountain lions on the Kaibab for the first time consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase your likelihood of success. While calling in a higher-pressure unit like 5A it often requires a hunter to be very mobile. But, if you plan to go regardless you should try to reach the AZGFD wildlife manager for that zone if at all possible and see if you can get some hints as to where to look. BLM road 1065 runs north from U.S. Hwy 89A to U.S. Hwy 89 in Utah between the Buckskin Mountains and the Paria Plateau. If you are fortunate enough to draw one of the most sought after deer tags in the United States come to the Kaibab with realistic expectations and remember, we hunt for the experience. From the South: None. North of Kane Ranch, there are a few groups of antelope scattered throughout the rolling hills. Arizona Wildlife Outfitters also offers some exceptional deer hunting on Mule Deer units 12A and 13B. From the North: None That is a huge area to even begin to scout. Getting off the road and into the canyons will improve your observations of mule deer bucks, especially mature ones. Lesson learned! The Paria Plateau to the east has the lowest number of deer. Some tags in the state may take upwards of two and a half decades to draw as a non-resident. Like many Arizona elk units, 5A bulls are very responsive to calling. The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter. Many hunters utilize horses and mules, snowmobiles, and other recreational vehicles to overcome these access limitations. Favorite Deer Units : 13 b ,12a, 12b, 10, 17a & b,18b , 21, 23, 44, 20c Favorite Antelope Units: 5a, 7, 9, 10, 7a, 18a. Tree stands up or down canyon from waters can be excellent and reduce the inevitable territorial dispute with other hunters over the waterhole. I'd go the end of September into early October. Several restaurants, store, fuel, dump stations available in several locations between Jacob and the rim. The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab and Paria plateaus are likely areas to locate lion sign. Arizona Game and Fish Department, Region II 928 774-5045 Do you have landowner tags, lease land, or have an lodge? The terrain in this unit could generally be described as plateau/canyon country. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. Areas: Chukar are found throughout the Kanab Creek drainage and associated side canyons and in Paria Canyon and Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Use the link, or scan code to get to this page and select the questionnaire for your hunt. The nature of early archery hunts dictates that most successful hunters will need to be physically fit enough to hike 3-5 miles a day in terrain ranging from 4800-7800 feet in elevation. Included in these hunts are bull only, antlerless and even 275 any-elk tags. Overview: The Unit 12 (GMUs 12A and 12B) mountain lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. After an opening day of this activity plan on spending the next nine days in the same manner. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah 84770, phone (435) 688-3200. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Home. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. During the winter months access to areas within Unit 12 can be extremely limited, even nonexistent. Since 2016 a slight decline in the number of squirrels observed has taken place. There are several small herds that reside on the north side of Highway 89A in the grassland. Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. From the South: U.S. Hwy 89A, Wahweap Marina Campground at Lake Powell, administered by the National Park Service; Page Lake Powell Campground, 849 S. Coppermine Rd. The average Boone and Crockett score for the last 5 years has been in the mid-150s. Grouse, like squirrels, appear to be most active early in the morning but walking throughout the day can result in flushed birds. Many come with visions of 32 wide racks with multiple points per side, still others are happy with a tender yearling forkhorn. The Arizona Game and Fish Commission authorized over-the-counter (OTC) elk tags that include units 12A and 12B and others (see regulations). Im not at all familiar with the area but read on azgfd that the population is super low. Hunters interested in purchasing an elk tag should be aware that this unit has few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. Conditions can vary from 80 degrees to below freezing, from sunny to snow, and from pleasant to down right ugly. On the ever in demand 12A late hunt, pray (if religious) for snow. Yearly reported harvest figures fluctuate around 1 dozen lions with most of these animals taken by houndsmen during the winter months. Chukars are generally found within the lower 8 or 9 miles of Paria Canyon, along the rim of the Paria Plateau, and at spring sources along the Vermilion Cliffs. 12A includes the Kaibab plateau that actually starts in southern Utah and rising up to the south to 9300+ ft. The most common technique for lion hunting in 12A is similar to that used throughout the Rim country in Arizona. "Give 100% in everything you do, unless you are donating blood.". The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. The unit's terrain is very rocky with rugged mountains. Most of the scouting packages we offer are two days. Hunters obtaining an elk tag should be aware that this unit has few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. From the West: U.S. Hwy 89A It is the hunters responsibility to know where they are and the state line is patrolled heavily by both Utah and Arizona law enforcement. Essentially, it could take decades of applying to get drawn for a premier hunt for one of Arizona's world class mule deer. Elevations range from approximately 4,000 in Glen Canyon to 7,000 on the Paria Plateau. It is common to observe bighorns in locations where it is not possible to recover them. J John McLaughlin Registered Take care in species identification before dropping the hammer. The Kaibab Plateau ranges from 6,000' to 9,200'; vegetation consists of ponderosa pine, mixed conifer, and aspen. The Kaibab Plateau ranges from 6,000' to 9,200'; vegetation consists of ponderosa pine, mixed conifer, and aspen. Be prepared for snow, mud, and adverse weather conditions, and bring plenty of supplies. Identification seems to be a prevalent problem for first time grouse hunters as poult turkeys, Band-tailed Pigeons, and even Northern Goshawks are often mistaken for grouse. Temperatures and conditions may shift from temperate to extreme in the space of several hours. Contact Us Contact Us Thank you for your interest in our Deer and Elk Hunts. The Kaibab Squirrel is a subspecies of the Aberts Squirrel which is found only on the Kaibab Plateau, Mount Logan, and Mount Trumbull. A map of the zones can be found at mountain lion management zones map. I plan on going up there to scout sometime soon but was wondering if anyone has seen elk up there. John is that a unit that can produce a monster bull? There are no easy ways to hunt them, but the breath-taking scenery makes it a great place to try. Phone us at 928-713-4329 with any questions you may have. Climate Information Find areas overlooking large open expanses and plan on sitting still for hours on end and glassing until you feel like your eyes are going to fall out. This is the classic western mule deer hunt. Walking and stalking in areas determined by scouting to hold bachelor herds of bucks can be exciting and productive. Grouse hunting is a great excuse to come to the Kaibab to enjoy a cooler climate. New Detailed bison hunt information web page. Depending on the amount of snow fall, Pigeon Canyon and Gunsight Point to the west are generally best after early November. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The Kaibab uplift extends into Utah about 15 miles, so a big bull might wander to the south and spend summer up in the high country (the Kaibab runs for 60 miles above 8000 ft and down at the GC park boundary it's over 9000). No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Elk will be found from the Mogollon Rim south to Parker Creek. Getting off the road and into the canyons will improve your observations of mule deer bucks, especially mature ones. The grouse season in the fall provides a beautiful time to camp on the Kaibab and an inability to locate grouse is a great excuse for enjoying some of the finest scenery and weather Arizona has to offer. This behavior includes becoming more and more nocturnal, spending more time in thick aspen and mixed conifer stands, and remaining in unroaded canyon habitats. Motor vehicle travel is restricted to existing roads on all BLM land in the Unit. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. New Harvest Thresholds When the number of harvested mountain lions reaches the threshold, that zone closes to the additional harvest of mountain lions at sundown the Wednesday immediately following. Excellent recruitment and low winter mortality for the past two years has lead to population levels similar to the early 90s. Once the location of turkeys has been determined getting up early, hours before first light, is critical. Toggle between terrain, satellite, and topographic views, 1st choice license applications and licenses drawn, Draw odds for resident and nonresident applicants, Harvest stats by hunt_code, manner, season, sex, type, Average # of days between precip or snow event, Probability of other weather events (thunder, hail, etc) by by month. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. Hunters purchasing an elk tag should be aware that this unit has very few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. If old man winter has not yet shown his face follow the suggestions given for the early hunt and good luck. Watching waterholes that have turkey sign around them provide the turkey hunter with the best opportunity to bag a bearded turkey during this often dry time of the year. First, on an archery hunt dont bother with pinyon/juniper areas unless it has snowed (not likely). Concentrate your efforts in areas with waterholes (not necessarily on the water), as the plateau is often dry at this time of the year. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab National Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; northeasterly along the park boundary to Glen Canyon National Recreation area; easterly along the recreation area boundary to the Colorado River; northeasterly along the Colorado River to the Arizona-Utah state line; westerly along the state line to Kanab Creek; southerly along Kanab Creek to the Kaibab National Forest boundary; northerly, easterly, and southerly along this boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566; except those portions that are sovereign tribal lands of the Kaibab Band of Paiute Indians. Bachelor herds are typically broken up by this hunt and bucks can be relatively evenly distributed throughout the plateau. Notice: Archery deer hunters Unit 12B and 12B West are not an open area for over-the-counter tag holders since 2008. Concentrate in areas dominated by this type of vegetation and look for turkey tracks in the snow, mud, dust, or around water sources. Overview: Unit 12A is home to one of the most unique game animals in Arizona and perhaps the nation. Very few deer reside in 12BW year round, making it difficult to hunt during the archery season in August and September. We are a family owned and operated business. If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriam's Turkeys. New Harvest Thresholds When the number of harvested mountain lions reaches the threshold, that zone closes to the additional harvest of mountain lions at sundown the Wednesday immediately following. Four-wheel drive, chains, shovels, and winches can keep you hunting instead of being stuck for a day. Being in position at first shooting light can be critical as the big boys are often bedded down for the day within minutes of the sun breaking the horizon. Many come with visions of 32 wide racks with multiple points per side, still others are happy with a tender yearling forkhorn. Yearly reported harvest figures fluctuate around 1 dozen lions with most of these animals taken by houndsmen during the winter months. All off-highway vehicles must display a current OHV decal and a street legal registration if operated on a county road. With continued and persistent drought the woody winter browse in 12AW has been less than productive for the past several years and as result concerns over the carrying capacity of this vital range are warranted. City of Page Chamber of Commerce 928 645-2741, Https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/, https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/. A good bird dog can be of great assistance in retrieving downed birds. 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