CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. CINDY: Uh huh. What made you want to do it? Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. CINDY: Uh huh. Cause that was the smallest he had. CINDY: Yep. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? The security guard at that time FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. A metallic green Buick Century. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. I operated behind a work persona. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? CINDY: The garage was opened. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. He was really sweet. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. You know, I was supposed to meet him. CINDY: He just drove by. Every time it was in my face. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. Be sure and look at all six. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. or debate this issue live on our message boards. When it was time for Hansen to go to prison, his plea agreement included a request, according to accounts at the time: He would do his time outside Alaska. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). Others have never been found. FLOTHE: Really dark color. FLOTHE: How did you know this? Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. It had a long barrel. FLOTHE: How about the glasses? FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? It was plain. FLOTHE: Thank you. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walker's suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. This was a secretive killer who is believed to have taken half of his murders with him to the grave. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! So he shows up Sunday night, then. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. CINDY: I dont think so. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. Like a station wagon. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. FLOTHE: Like this? The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! 'We're not trying to solve the crime. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money CINDY: Like a new Seville. FLOTHE: Um hmm. The woman, who was. My left wrist, right there After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. CINDY: Uh huh. And he had called me and I slept through it. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. CINDY: Yeah. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? Hudgens: Its important for me because its easy for people to make snap judgments about young women in her position. But he had brown socks on. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. (inaudible) Hansen would kidnap the women at gunpoint, tie them up, then fly to remote areas to kill them. CINDY: I knew I was in trouble. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. CINDY: Um hmm. 2022 Anchorage Daily News. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. CINDY: Uh huh. Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. CINDY: A little moustache. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. FLOTHE: I hope not. I always wanted to do dramas. But then also, it was not personal enough that it would come home with me and affect my sleeping. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. People either loved it or they hated it. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. We all have the same needs. Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? He doesnt mess around. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. And I said, Fine, no problem.. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. Were all connected. And he contacts you. And do what he pleased with her. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. FLOTHE: Youre positive. Same with the two sexual assaults; I have an arrest date of December 1971, but as for the date of the crimes or whether he was arrested for both at the same time (which I assume to be the case) is unclear. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. Time is 8:15. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. FLOTHE: OK. Looking at picture number five, is there anything different about him as you saw him, compared to the picture, Robert Hansen Police Lineup Photo The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. CINDY: They look the same. CINDY: Yeah. CINDY: Uh huh. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. Together they entertained colleagues at their home. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. She was hysterical, half-clothed, and had an unbelievable story of survival to tell. FLOTHE: The same person. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? FLOTHE: How did you know that? FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. Only a dozen bodies were located. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? (pause) My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? It was a red scar All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. And he had called me and I slept through it. CINDY: Uh huh. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. FLOTHE: How did he get in? FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than CINDY: Uh huh. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? With a cut in the back. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? FLOTHE: Friday morning. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. John Paulson. CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. All rights reserved. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. Your email address will not be published. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? He died in prison last month aged 75. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? CINDY: Im positive. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! FLOTHE: And about what time was that? To the left is the basement. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: Nope. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. When will it be released? Buck teeth. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. She left the ADN in October 2018. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Hudgens: That was great. I personally loved it. About four stairs to get into the house. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. And brown socks. CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. There. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. Your email address will not be published. Glenn Flothe, AST. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) So the next day, which was Sunday (sniffles), I was on Fourth and Denali and this gentleman had been by and pulled in the parking lot and offered me, and I got in the car voluntarily, I was talking with this man and he offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car. How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. 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