He and I flew out of Da Nang on the morning of Jan 1, 1968 (that night Da Nang A.B. Another who is 85,from Colorado and was on the USS Rhona in Tunisia in the early stages of WWll who filed his claim at age 80 for PTSD. for years, all I asked for was a good nights sleep. I have followed out governments proclivity to repeat errors endlessly. What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. The figure that floats around alot and that Vet Centers sometimes mention is about 111,ooo from 1973 to 1997. Give me a week. So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only the few will survive by This is not to say that we werent casualties of other things like Agent Orange and things we probaby dont even know about, but the fact remains, we are NOT dying off at a disproporttionate rate, we are NOT more suicidal that other generations of combat vets, and we KNOW who the real Vietnam Vets were (those on the ground). Dear Friends abd fellow vets, Semper Fi. Mike. Vietnam Veterans of America/ Vietnam Veterans Die Early/ Epidemiology for Vietnam Veterans/ Agent Orange Deaths, http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf, http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, Transcendental Meditation Retreat At Picture Rocks Retreat House, Veterans Across America Black Out Walmart Black Thursday. If true, 390 VN vets die a day so in 2,190 days from today, -----In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. No more mr. Nice Guy. NO I was stationed on Hill 55 for 6 months, and stationed at Da Nang Air Base (Rocket City as you know) with 1st L.A.A.M. What is a combat vet? Though rarely found in Americans, the parasites infect an estimated 25 million people worldwide, mostly in Asia. I found out he was on the plane behind me after roll call satin the rain and mud The AO stuff is just so hard to tolerate as it still invades so many of us. But the specter of Vietnam still lingers, and some of that wars veterans view such acts with a wary glance. In 1970 received a letter from him Lost a friend after a going away party when he took one last flight the day after the party. Call me next week sometime, and I will help you with the stressor stuff. 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, Can you provide more information on this? Subject: Fwd: ED SCHULTZNATIONAL TALK HOSTDISABLED VET DENIED JUSTICE! Hometown: Vega Baja, Puerto Rico. Nearly three out of four of those cases were also denied, even though the government posted a warning on its website this year saying veterans who ate raw or undercooked freshwater fish while in Vietnam might be at risk. Queleparece is a website that writes about many topics of interest to you, a blog that shares knowledge and insights useful to everyone in many fields. Fact: Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. American soldiers returning home from Vietnam often faced scorn as the war they had fought in became increasingly unpopular. So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only the few will survive by 2025. In war, there are no unwounded soldiers (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. I discovered the VA and local Vet center and was walked through the process to get compensation for PTSD and Diabetes. 101st Airborne 1971 Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Pretty hard to quantify those one car accidents at 2am, from the smell of diesel. Over time, swelling and inflammation of the bile duct can lead to cancer. Then, on March 10, 2010 the Secretary makes a statement detailing a new plan to automate AO filings that will speed up the process. Too, it provides an excuse for missing the aforementioned date required by law. He said the approval came right after his doctor wrote a letter saying his bile duct cancer was "more likely than not" caused by liver flukes from the uncooked fish he and his unit in Vietnam ate when they ran out of rations in the jungle. I may have some choice words to express as well. Hi Mike, We were driving home from the airport when I heard the news. And as more and more wartime atrocities came to light, there was a national implication of guilt and shame placed on Vietnam veterans as participants in and avatars of a brutal, unsuccessful war. And before we ate our food they came from the beach and were to be sprayed along with everything else that the VA is making this presumption for having boots on the ground for even one minute. I found out later that most of the men who enlisted for 4 years volunteeredfor I knew we were losing our numbers fast but not nearly as fast as we are, thank you for the education. His name is Ray Alvarado and you can Google his name or USS Rhona and read a wild story. None of that, he says, prepared me for the reception at home upon our return.. I too am a Marine Vietnam Veteran; (7th Marines 67-69), with multiple diagnoses. No way of accounting for one car accidents either. He was 15 years old and had been in-country nearly one month. Im going to put that review officer in my shoes as a 20 y/o medic. tell everyone that was their to go & get a blood test to check for agent orange 1st comes diabetes then prostate cancer thats what a dr told me yesterday. All my Vet friends died from suicide, cancer, heart attack (drinking themselves to death). i mention the verified stressers, as i wonder if that could help in the decision on a cib. Its called Mekong Protocol. I have had cancer in the crease of my neck were a knot on a kerchief rubbed, and sores in my scalp were the canvas of the helmet sat on my head. So few can imagine that we were really sprayed with chemicals and had to live with the year of VA Denial. It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 19.5 million in the year 2020 to 13.6 million in the year 2048. Thanks Jim, that was very thorough. How the hell can anyone answer this question? I was a aircraft sheetmetal repairman. 1995 (census figures). Did you know that is the day Ho Chi Minh died? How old did you have to be to be drafted in Vietnam? Their is a ton of it online everywhere. This is an awsome blog, I am glad I have found it. Do you mean more information on the claim process? to As for VA disability, if someone was in combat or experienced documented stressors before or after Vietnam, AND, they are assessed in a VA claim related medical exam, AND they can get someone who was in their unit to verify the incidents, they may be successful in their claim for PTSD or injuries received in Nam. american legion of purple hearts. OK I found the source and and researching this more. (fact check note by Mike Brewer. my email is, micpatrickbrewer@gmail.com., mike: fact is, my factory closed last summer, so i went and applied for some va disabilty, to help until i get fully retired. VA said not related to Agent Orange. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. Can you put dead flowers in food waste bin? that stuff got into everything -even breathing it in did a # on everyone that is how the guys in the navy got it. Age 67. tell me what you think about the article I just wrote about former Senator Alan Simpson, at TucsonCitizen.com His comments about Agent Orange victims are going to keep me up nights! Reading Shineskis October news release, which promised a fast track response to those who suffered from ISD, I immediately re-filed with VA. A few days later VA issued a bulletin essentially saying, Whoa, the approvals would be delayed until sometime in summer 2010 because it had to be published with the Federal government.. The odd thing, I was at Tripler Hospital today and learned something interesting. We are not dying off that fast. I always say welcome home to a vietnam vet. I found out later after I got up that it was someone down the hall from me that shot himself. The disability compensation that some veterans get from the VA is factored into the average for veterans. The Vietnam War lasted from 1964-1973the longest war in American history. does not receiving a cib mean im not a combat vet? returned from Vietnam , the clock has been ticking. david dolby died 63 yrs old 5 tours in nam. A lot of them give me that blank stare like, 'You've got what?'". A friend of mine who is an in-country veteran asked me to look into the topic of how many Vietnam veterans are still alive. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Poison, who cares? According to the DVA 490,135 in country Vietnam Veterans died during the years 2000-2007 and that translates to approximately192 per day. However, the unit is most well-known for its exploits during the Vietnam War, which took place between 1955 and 1975. Did not know his name but I couldnt bring myself to walk by his A/O after this happened. i was in a compound & seen them spraying and the next day everywhere they sprayed was brown. Mike you write well and to get to core issues. At your next response, should you be so kind, I will tell you of a career U.S. Navy hero who died alone, broke, unsung in a Trailer park in Oregon. I would like to see how much that differs from the civilian population and are they no. I welcomed 2 Marines back home and they returned the gesture. The Vietnam veterans, we couldnt believe it. Quick Answer: What Can I Learn From A Veteran? There is only ONE KIND OF VIET NAM VET,,ONE WHO WAS THERE. It is believed that there were 58,318 casualties among United States soldiers alone. If this jogs someones memory than please write on this blog so we can perhaps chat sometime. didn't know who they were fighting and dying for. I am asking for a Decision Review Officer Hearing. The Current Situation Regarding the Missing and Unaccounted for American Service Members Who Were Killed in Vietnam. Millions served in Vietnam. 7512 I hope it will cause your readers to write the Secretary and emphasize their concern about the unfortunate treatment of our Vietnam Veterans. you guys, but kinda gives me the chills, considering this is the kind of i have been 100% dav. 2017 Report on Race and Ethnicity 624,000 during World War II and throughout the Korean Conflict 1,475,000 Vietnam Era 6,651,000 0 2 4 6 8 10 2017 2022 2027 2032 2037 Millions World War Two Conflict in Korea Vietnam Era Gulf War Era. Statistics show that at least five men killed in Vietnam were sixteen years old, and at least 12 were seventeen years old. Welcome Home John. It was after returning to the U.S. and while en route to the hospital that Wowwk first encountered hostility as a veteran. You should document that to the Patient Advocate Office. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among VietnamWar veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. Mike 520-360-6933. This article highlights the eligibility criteria and important information for filing a claim for benefits. Names were called, Vets were spit on, along with not being respected by our own did happen. Seventeen year-old James Calvin Ward was one of them. The aircraft ( helicopter ) went down experiencing mechanical problems. So, lets say there were not more, just, alot. It is still tragic. Strapped to a gurney in a retrofitted bus, Wowwk and other wounded servicemen felt excitement at being back on American soil. Before I married my loving wife, I told her of some of my experiences, but not all of them showed her all themedicine Although I have to plan most everything I do so as to avoid the things that still bother me..-I started looking up my VN buddies a few years ago,, so far Ive located 10 men that was in my CompanyTalk to them on a regular basis.Bad part is that out of the 10 men 7 of us have major mental and physical problems. Bill Ray/Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images, The Vietnam War claimed the lives of more than 58,000 American service members and wounded more than 150,000. Criteria for Eligibility Best wishes, I just watched a VN movie about the Hanoi Hilton.. For a decade, as one person was shipped off to fight, another was returning. Good luck and take care -Jim. Can I cut apples the night before for apple pie? Your email address will not be published. ive been asked a few times over the years if im a combat vet. A group of amputee Vietnam veterans talk together at a hospital in San Francisco, California, 1967. that 6 months after I left everybody rotated back to the states, say reminds me of If you read the Taps in their mag there seems to be an alarming rate of NamVets dying in theirlate fifties and early sixties. I received a memo from the Virginia VA dated March 9, 2010 stating that although VA was required to publish the new regulation by March 12, 2010 (in accordance with the Agent Orange Act of 1991 stipulating timeframes for action), VA would be unable to meet that date. If you fought in Vietnam you were watching your . I dont have any but ONE Viet Vet friend still alive, he and I served in Marines 1st marine Airwing, 1967 at Da Nang Air Base and left the day befor TET offensive started Jan 1, 1968. It means Hill of Sacrifice. Nice of them. 1/3rd of all the U.S. Vets who served in VietNam ?!?!? It was Bob Kerrey. they have in all wars. Hey Mike: We Cold War vets that were stationed in-country, posted in HeilbronnGermany in the 1950s that were proudly servingas part ofthe Alpiners of the502nd ASA Group, gathering intel from those godless, heathen East Germans and Soviets, had their share of hardships too. "We are taking this seriously," said Curt Cashour, a spokesman with the Department of Veterans Affairs. ive always just repied yes, and left it at that. Im a Life member of VVA, DAV and AMVETs; spend almost two years in Vet Nam as Medic with 145th Avn Btn AND 11th ARVN Airborne Brigade. In my 60s now, retired disabled veteran live on my little firebase with my wife we both married for the first time she was 41 I was 43 share our life with our 11 dogs and 2 cats. You can reach me at JasonGunn20@yahoo.com. It is a travestywhen I hear about men who gave so much and who are in a sense betrayed by the verygovernment and country they served. Pete, be sure to ask your DAV guy if he thinks you have exhausted the Reconsideration process. "I was in a state of shock," he said. (Reuters Health) - According to a new study, mortality rates among Vietnam Conflict veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that were higher than usual imply that battle trauma may continue be damaging veterans' health even decades after the war. Veterans returning from Vietnam were met with an institutional response marked by indifference. You posted this on September 2nd. E-5Sent to W. Germany Nov 1966-Sept.67 ,Volunteered for Vietnam Nov. 1967-Sept 1968 9th Inf. God bless you guys for your sacrifice. In popular culture, the stereotype of the broken, homeless Vietnam vet began to take hold thanks to films like The Deer Hunter (1978), Coming Home (1978) and First Blood (1982). Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. Hope that helps. As a cohort, Vietnam veterans were met with none of the fanfare and received none of the benefits bestowed upon World War IIs greatest generation.. Had to fight the VA for years , Diabetes , neropathony and heart attack 14 years ago. What are Vietnam veterans dying from? On June 7, 1969, Bullock was killed by small arms fire while on night watch at An Hoa combat base. Neither of us has since flown again. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Do you mean more information about Agent Orange? Then ask, Do you think I might have been affected by this ambiguity between grounded reality in the tri canopy jungle and political reality at home which was counter to the troops welcome return (sarcasm). This is around 9.7 percent of the generation at the time. They may look appealing but can actually take up to 5 years to schedule a hearing. The dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in 1982 began the process, but many identify the Gulf War of 1990-91with its national flag-waving, yellow-ribbon cultural mobilization and the grand celebrations of a successful campaignas ending Vietnam Syndrome. I have met many men who were spat upon. (Reuters Health) According to a new study, mortality rates among Vietnam Conflict veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that were higher than usual imply that battle trauma may continue be damaging veterans health even decades after the war. Semper Fi to your hubby. Anyone can use no. Im a member of the Vietnam Veterans of American. Commissioned in 1980 as a Behavioral Science Officer and went from 0-1 to 0-6 until I retired in 2005. Combat Medic Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? 1 Please post the SOURCE of this statistic. MarDivPhoto on Oct 9, 2009 refers to the American War Museum website, and mike_brewer on Oct 12, 2009 refers to the Vietnam War Museum, both as the source of the number 850,000 living Vietnam veterans. The federal agency sent its sympathies but no money. Jim and I flew from Da Nang, to Kadena Okinawa, and then after an attempt to fly out of Kadena in a Flying Tiger Line plane one of the 4 engines quit in mid-air, and we made an emergency landing back at Kadena, we stayed overnight and flew out in the same repaired airplane on to Travis A.F. He wishes the VA would do more to raise awareness about liver flukes and to encourage Vietnam veterans to get an ultrasound that can detect inflammation. Be safe and well Welcome Home It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 20.0 million in the year 2017 to 13.6 million in the year 2037. where did this nunber come from, the people I am dealing with look closely at source material and I would really like to use this. SFC (Ret.) Born: 04/07/1937. At a time when I was paying $300 a credit, my entire educational benefit was $126. And when it came to finding a job, he was met with thinly veiled disgust and discrimination from law firms upon learning he was a Vietnam infantry veteran. Roughly 300-thousand veterans have died from Agent Orange exposure -- that's almost five times as many as the 58-thousand who died in combat. In the United States 17-year-olds may join the armed forces with the written agreement of parents. By way of the SHADS project, we are still handling claims of radiation exposure in WWll and those who went to ABC school in the Navy; Atomic, Biological, Chemical Warfare training on ships in the early 1960s. We could not understand getting letters from school kids, says Langenus, also a veteran of Desert Storm. Because they will be OLD and it their turn. I too am a Life VVA member and Past President. we went to the 1st sargent and he said ok. i went out for 7 or 8 mo. In any case, we who served our country continue to die on a daily basisin greater and greater numbers. It can take decades for symptoms to appear. This was partly due to the logistics of the never-ending conflict. Grenada, Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing, Panama Invasion, and Gulf War Veterans will all start dying in large numbers. I would like to see the source for this estimate that there are only 850,000 Vietnam Veterans still alive. Soon we won't have any World War II Veterans remaining. HISTORY reviews and updates its content regularly to ensure it is complete and accurate. Today the list still grows in our local newspaper, It would take nearly 20 years after the end of the war for America to get right with its Vietnam veterans. Born: 09/15/1946. Check out the VA web-site and your local Vet Center. 1st Recon April 12, 1997. He lived for three days after that incident. I do not know or care, where your stats came from. Ill never ware a baseball cap again ever! I found out later Im 66 years old, going in to the hospital for the 4th time for more stents. I am an in country vet and 59 years old, your article wasvery informative. If it is any comfort, one of my VVA pals reminds me that VVA only has a total of about 45,000 members nation wide, so it represents and very small part of all who served. Just finished writing a book about an incident in Vietnam that tells a story about how twisted and asymmetric that war was. Sit in a barbers chair, and let another person cut my hair. I served in Nam 68-69 with Shore Party detached to the 5th Marines in An Hoa. My room mate was nick named Budda in the 134th. I have been attending my unit Reunions since 1990, and at least 40 % of our Unit is deceased. http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, MY MINISTRY: http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, De Nomie, William D. Sgt. 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