I think Brigid Polk did that once. The thing that would irk me the mostaside from driving the cab; as you know, Im very lazy, I hate to workpeople would say, Was that a good job? I hate all jobs, okay? But you need more room to do that. The other is that horses are hands. There are a lot of funny people around, and a lot of writers too, but somehow the combination of great humor and great writing has become an exceedingly rare commodity in the modern world. I loved dressing up and going out. High Times: Do you watch anything else on TV besides Family Feud? He said theyd fix it. And I reviewed those. The good thing about being in someone elses apartment is its so much easier to leave than it is to get someone out. I didnt do anything interesting. I wish it was still on, except now I guess it would be too modern. One of which is that I strongly object to having more than one generation of a family being president. Things that New Yorkers need. So I have a state diploma. You can see in it the sentimentality of Jane Eyre. They dont have to be particularly interesting children; just the fact that they are children is sufficient. Fran Lebowitz is a New York humorist who worked as a columnist for Andy Warhol's Interview before publishing her first collection of comic essays, Metropolitan Life, in 1978. It was charity really. But it's a pleasurable one. Here's one guarantee in 2021: author Fran Lebowitz won't read this. Okay? This idea that people have to love and understand each other is absurd. If you were going to have dinner with some of those older people you mentioned, say writers, which ones would you pick? The film, a mix of interviews and clips of Lebowitz, is . Their antidote to this was giving me about 22 Thorazines. I couldnt imagine knowing someone who was that funny. One of them was my columns. I like lots of writers, but now I cant think of them. Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. Theres a huge gap in what people know, and theres no context for it anymore. Her early fiction, much of which also appeared in that magazine, was collected in At the Bottom of the River (1983), a book that, like her Talk stories, announced her themes, her style, the uncanny purity of her prose. Im such a slow writer I have no need for anything as fast as a word processor. Instead of representing oil as self-evident, Sinclair imbues it with a kaleidoscopic range of associations that reimagine it on visionary new terms.. When she was sixteen, her family interrupted her education, sending her to work as a nanny in New York. I wanted to be a beatnik. I rolled my own cigarettes. And I also knew I didnt want to write like anyone else. Ray Millands head was on Rosie Grier. I remember one of the best days of my life was an all-day A.I.P. By Susan Devaney. Id call it Hello, This is Fran.. Its not human nature. Now I call up friends during the day and theyre writing. What are they going to possibly say thats of interest? Fran describes Ralph Lauren's copying, and eventual embodiment, of Brooks Brothers WASP style. In my grammar school we got extra credit for extra book reports. I had been spending all of my time with drug-addict college students. China is not a great idea: capitalism and a dictator. Fran Lebowitz has realised George Costanza is, in fact, an idiot. So just think, if there were, say, only 10 percent of the hotels that exist now, there would be all these apartments for people who live in New York, as opposed to people visiting New York. Wander the New York City streets and fascinating mind of wry writer, humorist and raconteur Fran Lebowitz as she sits down with Martin Scorsese. The novel is reputedly about rich people who want to be artists, and artists who want to be rich people. I get rid of the ones that I can bear to give up or never wanted to begin with. We went to the Stratford Shakespeare Festival in Connecticut and interviewed the star of the play, and I wrote this incredibly bitchy Rex Reedish interview with her and got an outraged letter from her press agent. Fran readily agreed, as she was banned from most movie screenings because of her old column, Best of the Worst. Scorsese ventures that it was at a literary party on New York City . Lebowitz: I like Marshall Brickman. High Times: Have you gotten any marriage proposals? I can put my hand on any book in the whole house; I know where they are. I have two animal theories. I didnt want to have my consciousness expanded, I wanted to have it restricted. Meeting James Joyce would be more on the order of sightseeing, like seeing the Washington Monument or the Jefferson Memorial. Capitalism, pretty old-fashioned, too. I cant believe anyone has ever made a ballet. I read How to Be a Naked Bus Driver and My Brother Was an Only Child. They were these huge hardcover books that were different aspects of Interview. My whole movie consciousness was based on movies no one else had ever seen. 246, Rachel Cusk and Sheila Heti discuss how writing her first novel helped Cusk discover her shape or identity or essence. Next, Allan Gurganuss reading of his story It Had Wings, about an arthritic woman who finds a fallen angel in her backyard, is interspersed with a version of the story rendered as a one-woman opera by the composer Bruce Saylor. - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. . High Times: Did you watch television as a child? In clips of them talking on stage, Lebowitz looks uncharacteristically awestruck. LEBOWITZ: Thats kind of backwards. Richard Robinson thinks there should be a TV station thats only the best commercials. Fran Lebowitz, ca. Fran Lebowitz is 69 years old October 27. Because it doesnt agitate against human nature. And I was really distraught. Thats the problem. I like Mel Brooks, especially the 2,000-year-old-man records with Carl Reiner. Everyone was paid in cash. I remember it because they gave me the topic: What was the effect of AIDS on the culture? I always was. . I remember walking in the hot sun to one of the American bases in Antiguapast the crazy house, as we called the lunatic asylum, and the dead house, where the bodies of people who died in the hospital were put until they were collected by the undertakerto be interviewed by an American soldiers wife. No one has ever said it that way. High Times: What writers have inspired you? Lucy stops sending her salary home, and I did stop sending mine. In the vein of Lebowitz's acclaimed Netflix limited series, Pretend It's a CityThe Fran Lebowitz Reader brings together two of the famed author's bestsellers, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies.In "elegant, finely honed prose" (The Washington Post Book World), Lebowitz limns the vicissitudes of contemporary urban lifeits fads, trends, crazes, morals, and fashions. No, no, no. I think my most enormous smoking punishment was being grounded for a month. But perhaps it makes senseI grew up in a place where I saw the sea every day and, near the end of my life, Im living in a place where the water has run out. It went on at five-thirty or six in the morning. I mean, there are fewer good things than bad things. If you can say 'I'll have that and a cup of coffee,' it's not art." 6. Im only afraid when I write. Theyre acting as if the other people are Abraham Lincoln. But its important who the president is. To me, dictating a book seems impossible. New Yorkers, weve seen Donald Trump for, like, 30 years; we know who he is. Kincaid divides her time between Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she is a professor of African American studies at Harvard University, and Bennington, Vermont, where her large brown clapboard house with yellow window trim is shielded by trees. I have to take the TV off the chair. It was one room, but that makes it sound grander than it was. When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. Once I wrote a column for Interview called Send This Girl to Camp where I set myself up as some sort of fresh-air-fund child and announced that I wanted to go to camp: I invented a camp called Camp Sensibility and asked people for contributions to send me there. Fran Lebowitz moved to New York City from her hometown of Morristown, NJ when she was 19. Go back. I think that would solve both problems. I did that for a couple of years. CLEMENTE: [laughs] Lets talk about your twenty thousand books. That was actually a job. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. Gauloises, English Ovals, any cigarette that looked like it would annoy people. And he would weigh them. - Booklet on 'New York's Underground' - Large . So in New York we have zillions of different kinds of people, many of them hate each other, but violence based on that hatred is really uncommon here. Then I moved to New York and switched to exotic foreign brands. CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? Your email address will not be published. "One of the reasons people our age came to New York, if you were gay, was because you . CLEMENTE: Did you talk with the clients of your cab? High Times: I remember telling you youd never make it as a writer until you learned how to type. To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. Well, huge myths grew up around the matron at my school. This is another thing most people don't know about Toni: though she was incredibly hardworking, she was physically incredibly lazy. CLEMENTE: One of my favorite quotes of yours is when you said that youve never been in a relationship for longer than six months, because you didnt want to switch from boredom to contempt. Aside from the collected Talk Stories (2001), her nonfiction works include A Small Place (1988), a reckoning with the colonial legacy on Antigua; My Brother (1997), a memoir of the tragedy of AIDS in her family; and two books on gardening, My Garden (Book) (1999) and Among Flowers: A Walk in the Himalaya (2005). No, Im just intrigued by them, because, to me, theyre like talking animals. One is that deers are rats. Nearby are a vegetable garden caged against wildlife and a cottage in which lives Trevor, her bearded young assistant. LEBOWITZ: No. But when I say no kitchen, I mean no sink. High Times: Tell me about your career as a poet. Couldnt it be clean, or cleaner. Customers paid 99 an hour to listen to this garbage. The most interesting one I went to was for a company that wanted to make a vodka for women. The two close friends first came together for an HBO documentary Public Speaking in 2010, directed by Scorsese, which introduced Lebowitz to a new generation and helped established her continued relevance. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. He had only the biggest movies, and he acted like I was affecting the box office. LEBOWITZ: The first thing I would do is say, I dont care if New York avoided bankruptcy by substituting tourism for the garment business, which is what happened. There are more male writers who own guns than any other profession except police officers. To me, it would be even a slower way to write. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. I would have liked to have met Nabokov. See, then, if you had no money, you had a horrible apartment. They were terrible. But then I found out it was fraud or something and I could go to jail, so I sent the money back and wrote to the people who sent it to me. I was caught all the time. by . Lebowitz: No. I dont think I was still writing for Interview, but once you go outside your natural audience, there are tons of people that dont like you. Theres an out-loud laugh (or more) on every page, as well as many passages destined for the quotation dictionaries, and the best epigrams written since the invention of television. I answered Steve Pauls telephone and was a general schlepper and errand girl for him, and I drove for him. He said, Id like you to come and sit there while Im doing it. I like Family Circle, Ladies Home Journal, anything with recipes that use marshmallows and American cheese in the same dish. I do remember that the worst movie I ever saw was called Four Flies on Gray Velvet, with Mimsy Farmer, one of your great loves. There are musings about Times. One of my resolutions is that I am going to start answering my mail. Then I try to bargain with them to wait until I get to the absolute edge of the deadline. Lebowitz: My writing habits are basically nonwriting habits. LEBOWITZ: I drank my lifetime supply of alcohol and I took my lifetime supply of drugs between the ages of 15 and 19. I did every single one like that. Everyone thought that to actually suspend you for smoking the matron had to catch you either holding a cigarette or with the smoke coming out of your mouth. Lebowitz: I dont know if any inspire me. Which, in my opinion, was: What is culture without gay people? For some reason, I decided to cut off my hair and bleach it blond. Any attempt to prove otherwise constitutes unacceptable behavior. Copyright 2023 Interview Magazine. On the way he started to drive into a tunnel, and I decided they might be going into a tunnel but I wasnt, so I tried to jump out of the car. People seem to think there is some connection between talking and writing, but I love to talk and if there were some connection between the two of them I would be the most prolific writer in the history of the world. Thats true of her music, but its also applicable to her podcast, Norah Jones is Playing Along.. I once read that deer are in the rodent family, and I still believe this. press handouts. It wasnt enough that he had Charles Mingus playing there every night. Im a great relative. Which is why I remember things. And people are constantly telling me, whether they are friends who feel sorry for me, because I cant find a place to live, or real estate agents, You cant afford an apartment the size you need with this many books. It became the major thing I was punished for. It was like the myth where if a girl gets pregnant and takes the boy to court, if three other boys come into court and say that they had slept with her, they would all get off scot-free. Lebowitz: I went through a period of watching $20,000 Pyramid, but it was too frustrating because every day I won $20,000 and I have no money. This has never occurred. He was the only one of us to break out into the big time, because he got a job on the first gay cruise ship. Steve paid me excessive amounts of money to answer his telephone. I wanted consciousness-restricting drugs; thats why I used to like liquor. I didnt lead a riot or set fire to the gym or do anything James Deanish. I wrote an editorial about the matron and got kicked off the paper. Author Fran Lebowitz was a guest on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher Friday night and got herself in hot water when she spoke about President Trump. We lived in these horrible places. But to this day I have never seen a worse movie. I like Dorothy Parker. I know Ive said this before, but the audience for the artswhether it was for writing or films . Fran Lebowitz. One was called Catherine the Great, and it had a picture of her on the label. I just talked it while a speed freak typed it. Get notified of our the latest cannabis news, exclusive brand deals, events updates and more! So every time I move, they have to be moved around, and I always fight with this guy when we do this, because he is a private librarian, which means, generally, he works for very rich people who never read their books. So he gave me enough Thorazine to put the entire college to sleep. Im afraid Im sitting beyond my means.. Everyone I know says, Fran is a Luddite, she doesnt have a computer. But I never had a typewriter. And then I would go out, get Marc coffee and a Danish, bring it to his apartment, and he would type it for me, because I never had a typewriter. Her first published work, movie and book reviews, appeared in that magazine when she was twenty years old. January 30, 2011. Just because its February doesnt mean were talking Roses! Lebowitz: No. You can probably tell from my writing that Im obsessed with notions of justice and injusticethose things that are wrong that can never be made right. I dont know howbecause when I was young, boys didnt type. Until then homesickness was something I only knew from books. Twenty-five people sitting in the room staring at you while you are thinking. CLEMENTE: But dont you love being in someone elses apartment, possibly someone you dont know well or know at all? By the time my youngest brother was born her life had collapsed on her, but she was a very elegant woman when I was young. She rented a theater and sat on stage and called people up and didnt tell them. I wanted to know what a vodka for women meant. He was the one that was supposed to be president. I took popular tunes, like Michael Row the Boat Ashore, and wrote lyrics having to do with my family. I like Rock Scene, Jet, Bronze Thrills, Interview, Italian Baby Vogue, Used Planes. Obviously, I was opposed to this, and I still am. High Times Greats: Fran Lebowitz, Americas Funniest Femme Fatale. For two reasons: First of all, I stopped taking drugs when I was 19, and who wants to drive a cab around New York with drugs in their car? I firmly believe that. I have a great collection of A.I.P. Lebowitz spent the pandemic alone, at her own insistence, having turned down offers to lock down with wealthy friends at their Hamptons homes . During that period I had stripes cut on my hands. Then I started getting suspended from school for smoking. But since that apartment was infested with roaches, I decided not to bring them to my nice, new apartment. "It would have been . It was 87. A decade seems like a good enough time for filmmaker Martin Scorsese and cultural critic-writer Fran Lebowitz to return to the screen. As boring as reading it. I dont remember who published it. I ended up smoking Lucky Strikes, just because I liked the way it looked, the gesture. Ive never seen the Kardashians; Im not sure who they are. I saw a group-therapy movieand the whole thing took place in redwood hot tubs with people screaming their problems at each other. Why was your first apartment so horrible, apart from the roaches? There was a sink in the bathroom. Jamaica Kincaid was born Elaine Potter Richardson on Antigua in 1949. Now she is winning new . I reviewed lots of movies that never opened in New York, only in drive-ins. And its not just the Bush family, all families designate each child as having some particular trait. 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