And that's what he did. Gu says Christy's family then threatened to kill Ted but his mother made a deal with them. Monks cannot help me, he said. Heres a list, Greek transportation minister resigns over train collision as death toll keeps rising, Ohios senators to unveil rail safety bill in wake of East Palestine derailment, After months of pounding, Ukrainian official says military may pull back from Bakhmut, Elizabeth Holmes cites her new baby as a reason she should avoid prison for Theranos scam. "Ultimately, this is a story of a guy who came to the country with nothing, and with some hustle, and dreams, and a little luck, really made quite a charmed life for himself.". That is a lie, he cried, and plunged the blade into his belly. Also Jerry Brown, who weve seen in California as our beacon of hope and morality, in 1975 was actually the opposite. Did working on this film change or contribute to your perspective of the American dream or immigrant stories?It seems like these days the American dream is harder and harder to attain. 50? This caused tension in the Ngoy household, being the center of many arguments between Ngoy and his wife. Ted and Christy are divorced. Suganthini's family insisted Ted break it off by telling her he didn't love her. Devastated that he had broken their pact, she filed for divorce. [2], In 1967, Ngoy was sent by his mother to study in the capital, Phnom Penh, where he met and married Suganthini Khoeun, the daughter of a high-ranking government official. ", He communicates with them almost every day. buy a ticket (Courtesy of Greenwich Entertainment). Ted Ngoy stands in front of his first independent donut shop in La Habra, named after his wife Christy Ngoy. One night he asked the woman at the counter if saving $3,000 would be enough to buy a doughnut shop. [4], Ngoy secured work as a janitor with Peace Lutheran Church in Tustin, California. When there was an overrun of pink doughnut boxes Ted bought them cut-price, and the pink boxes became his trademark. His few shirts and pants hang from a clothesline. Ted did try to curb his habit. Ted now sees that the same character traits that made him take bold risks in life also made it easy for him to fall prey to gambling. in Irvine, Which donut shop do you find yourself going back to for the sake of eating a donut?I had my out of body experience at DKs Donuts and Bakery in Santa Monica. He had sold what few shops remained. ", "I was like, 'What on earth makes this Cambodian? Ngoy joined the army. [9], Ngoy is the subject of the 2020 documentary film The Donut King. Suganthinis parents hoped she would marry well. Driving back with $85,000 cash in the boot of the car, they were stopped by the police; they had fallen behind with payments, so the car showed up as stolen. [6], The Donut King had its world premiere in the Documentary Feature Competition the South by Southwest film festival. While Ted was immersed in Cambodian politics, Christy flew to the US for the birth of a grandchild. After setting up a sweet shop of his own, he helped fellow . Las Vegas was the new thing, he said, besides making money and making doughnuts,. . Two days after Gu's out-of-the-blue call to DK's Donuts, she was talking to Ngoy in Cambodia. "I came back to L.A. and I didn't know that I was going to create this crazy explosion in the business. , the "It went like fire on the hill, so fast," says Ted. In order to be allowed to leave the camp and find work, they needed an American sponsor, who would find them a job and somewhere to live. A child of immigrants herself, she had become curious why Californian doughnut shops were so often run by Cambodians, and why there were so many of them. He was raised by his mother, who was from Shantou, Guangdong, and who only spoke Chinese. The family were housed in a hastily erected refugee camp on a marine training base, Camp Pendleton. Ngoy is Cambodian and he was in Phnom Penh when it fell. The Ngoys decided to keep uniformity amongst their shops, naming subsequent acquisitions Christy's. And then we opened second store in Fullerton, and when they opened, I also train people and my wage, Christi, also . Few foods are as universally adored as fried dough. Pit bosses, floor men and dealers at Caesars Palace, the MGM Grand and the Mirage got to know the Cambodian doughnut king. By the mid-1980s, he was a millionaire. Ngoy believes he is suffering Gods punishment for having betrayed the blood vow he made as a young man under the moonlight in Phnom Penh. [5] She reached out to Ngoy and other Cambodian families who ran donut shops, and within six weeks began principal photography. Where Im going, I dont know. Ngoy tried Gamblers Anonymous. He said hes Chinese Cambodian and we spoke Mandarin for a couple of minutes. "They're a good company and I owe them gratitude," Ted says. Ted became their first South East Asian trainee. He wrote a book called The Donut: History, Recipes, and Lore from Boston to Berlin and he gave really fascinating insights into donut culture, history and our relationship to donuts in America. Suganthini and her mother heard the music. In 1975, Ted Ngoy fled the war in Cambodia with his wife and three kids and arrived in America as a penniless refugee. "It's a devil, it's a monster. That really broke the ice for us. Streaming now on PBS. Once, he was a poor boy who carried away one of Cambodias wealthiest daughters. "It's a crazy story, but it's true," says Ted, now 78. Interestingly, largely because of Democratic policy we got a grant for our camera and it came from this girl, who was the daughter of Vietnamese refugees who landed in Arkansas. At the peak of his success, Ted owned something like 65 donut stores many of them named Christy's and was bringing in about $100,000 per month. Ngoy told Suganthini that he didnt love her. Once, he enjoyed the warmth of family and the respect of his community. Whenever Ted won, the family would rejoice with him. As far as the immigrant experience and my parents what it really did for me is open my eyes and I just cut them some slack about growing up here in conflict with wanting to be an American kid and their Chinese ways of raising me. He suggested that Ted hang out in the back and to put Christy in the front. In doing the research and finding that it was President [Gerald] Ford who issued the executive order to receive the refugees, a Republican president that was a huge surprise to me given that during the time that we were making this film we were hearing Donald Trumps rhetoric. Until then, she was kept sheltered. In return, he played their tables and lost thousands of dollars. LAist.com/radio. Mismanagement, Sloppy Hiring Practices, Lack Of Transparency. It was love at first bite. They pricked their fingers and squeezed drops of blood into a cup of water. Then Ngoy would fly to Las Vegas without telling her, sometimes staying as long as a week. "It's impossible to explain that money had nothing to do with it. The documentary goes back and forth between Ngoy and the present-day lives of second- and third-generation donut shop kids or what Gu refers to as Donut Generation 2.0. But the situation at home was increasingly dangerous and on his last trip, in April 1975, the capital fell. Working all hours, Ted and Christy knew very little about what was happening back home in Cambodia, but what they heard was bad. Cambodia was planning its first elections in 1993, and well-to-do emigres from California were returning to run for office. But Cambodians were leaving the business, tired of working 17-hour days and squeezing a 13-cent profit from every 65-cent doughnut. If you can dream it, they're probably mixing it somewhere on property. Ngoy's epic rags-to-riches-to-rags story has been chronicled before (in the The Donut King Ted Ngoy is a Cambodian American entrepreneur and former owner of a chain of donut shops in California, earning him the nickname the "Donut King." . I just do it.. Ngoy became a trainee and took over a Winchell's in Newport Beach. "[10], Whittaker said that "as Asian Americans face increasing racism, its closing message about how immigrant communitiesdefine America has only become more timely."[8]. Maybe Its Time To Raise Backyard Chickens, Catch A Wave In The Booming South Bay Food Scene: Here Are 11 New Restaurants To Try, Don't Celebrate Thanksgiving? He spends his evenings alone, reading the Bible. At school, Ngoy fell in love from afar with a beautiful girl. Ted Ngoy was a high school student in Phnom Penh when he first set eyes on Suganthini Khoeun, the daughter of a high-ranking government official. "I became a very, very bad man and borrowed money here and there," he says. Ted Ngoy stands in front of his first independent donut shop in La Habra, named after his wife Christy Ngoy. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Gu is working on developing a couple of music-themed film projects, both documentaries and narratives. To understand the politics, the Republican party at the time was a very anticommunist party. I believed him a thousand times, she said. She would forgive him when he promised to stop, and he would -- for a while. Broke, Ted and Christy returned to Cambodia. He says his gambling is under control -- though he has no money with which to test this will power. Ted negotiated well and got a good commission. When you hook up with gambling, your life's finished. The couple had flash cars, bought a million-dollar mansion with a pool and an elevator, and went on holidays abroad. and California landscape with a familiar coat yellow strip mall signs with red lettering reading Christys Donuts. You just have to see the opportunity and go for it. Those are the wise words of Ted Ngoy. He had burned a lot of bridges and at the time his children hardly spoke to him. With Chuong Pek Lee, Susan Lim, Ted Ngoy, Daewon Song. The rise & fall of The Donut King. Ted encouraged others to do the same. The family also still had the Winchell's so now they had two stores to run. Ngoy ended his political career abruptly in 2002, breaking with two powerful allies, the commerce minister and the head of the Cambodian Chamber of Commerce. In 1985, Ngoy and his wife became American citizens assuming the American names of Ted and Christy, respectively, and were enjoying a lavish lifestyle including a million dollar home at Lake Mission Viejo, a vacation home in Big Bear, expensive cars, and vacations to Europe. So Ngoy snuck into her family's heavily guarded compound and climbed through her bedroom window. But then Ted discovered that the tiny room where he lodged, on the fourth floor of a walk-up apartment block, overlooked Suganthini's villa. The second time Ted came back to California, Chet took all this time off of work, took him to his timeshare in Oceanside and drove his dad around all over Southern California. Ted Ngoy was born in Sisophon, Cambodia. One of the tricks he learned was to bake doughnuts in small batches throughout the day to keep them fresh - and because the smell of baking was the best form of advertising. The film flashes back to the horror of life in 1970s Cambodia, a tragic offshoot of the Vietnam war that eliminated thousands of lives. "I did not have time to take care of business, so business was going down. Christy has remarried and lives in the US, Listen to Ted Ngoy on Outlook on the BBC World Service, Download the podcast for more extraordinary stories, The Donut King, is available in the US now in theatres and online and will be coming to the UK in 2021, Listen to Ted Ngoy on Outlook: How the Donut King lost his crown. Because of the Ngoys, a Cambodian refugees first American job was often in a doughnut shop. Ted Ngoy: Well, when I was in a high school in a French school, my wife's Suganthini. Ngoy managed to escape just as Phnom Penh was falling and brought his wife, Suganthini, and their three children to America in the mid-1970s. youths avoid juvenile hall comes to an end, As it approaches its first decade, the Frida Cinema abides, Shake Shack gets ready to shake things up in Orange County, Santa Anas Electric City Butcher moves online, Brews&Bites beachside beer festival comes to the Ritz-Carlton, Laguna Niguel, 13 couples say I do on Valentines Day weekend at the Anaheim Marketplace, Broadway Divas serve off-Broadway realness at Segerstrom, Dine your heart out this Valentines Day with special menus throughout Orange County, 43rd annual Orange County Black History Parade & Unity Fair a source of pride in Anaheim. They wont trust you, he said. "Many times I try to commit suicide because I hate myself. Although there is still some resentment towards him in the Cambodian community, whose hard-earned cash he gambled away, he is also revered by many. Ted's parents and sisters fled across the border to Thailand, and Ted got a call from the US embassy there asking if he would sponsor them to live in the US. But he was more than well-off; he was respected. Gu realized his story was also an epic romance. When he completed his three-month training, Winchell's gave him a shop to run on Balboa Pier, a tourist spot on the Newport peninsula not far from Tustin. Here's Why It's Especially Dangerous To Hike SoCal Mountains Right Now, How 4 Words Upended A University's Journalism Program, And Stirred A Reckoning Over Race, What A Popular Yoga Teacher's Descent Into Conspiracy Theories Says About The 'Wellness To QAnon Pipeline', Ancient Lung Disease Strikes Countertop Cutters In LA. Suganthini replied, "Well be careful, if you don't jump into my room, you'll jump into my mum's room.". Inspired by the economic success of Taiwan, Ted decided to lobby the US for "most favoured nation" status, which would open the door to foreign investment. , to name a few outlets), but Alice Gu is the first to put it on film. An immigrant story with a (glazed) twist, The Donut King follows the journey of Cambodian refugee Ted Ngoy, who arrived in California in the 1970s and, through a mixture of diligence and. He wrapped the note around a stone, and threw it down. It led many voters to assume, incorrectly, that he was against Cambodia's royal family, and he didn't win a seat. That's a disaster," he says. The details that aren't in the movie are even crazier. The son of a peddler had no chance with such a girl, no right even to think of loving her. His story begins in the early 1970s when Ngoy was a commander in the Royal Cambodian Army, training soldiers in Thailand. Her name was Suganthini Khoeun. "I learned to bake, to take care of payroll, cleaning, sales - everything," he says. He borrowed money from relatives who had leased his doughnut shops. Ted Ngoy (born Bun Tek Ngoy; 1942) is a Cambodian American entrepreneur and former owner of a chain of doughnut shops in California. Over the years, he led thousands of his countrymen into the business. Yeah, My Family Doesn't Either, Soup Dumplings, Kimchi Burritos And More Fast, Cheap Eats In Glendale, At Masarap Cafe, West African and Filipino Cuisines Find Their Pairing, Drinking At Disneyland? The Ngoys drove a motor home around California, opening shops in Los Angeles, Modesto, Fresno, San Jose, the Bay Area city of Brisbane, Sacramento and San Diego. "He's like, 'You know what? "This story sheds light on refugees in a positive way, about what happens when they're given an opportunity," she says. Christy was in the front and made a lot of inroads with the community and built a lot of bridges. Then he had his next great idea. I never will be able to pay back. Ted did a lot of the baking at night, with his youngest son, Chris, collecting a light dusting of flour as he slept beside him in the kitchen. In 1967, his mother sent him to study in Phnom Penh, the capital. He did not fare well in either the 1993 or 1998 parliamentary elections, but his friend, Prime Minister Hun Sen, made him an advisor on commerce and agriculture. No days off. What is Ted up to in Cambodia nowadays?Ted is doing well. Ted Ngoy is a Cambodian American entrepreneur and former owner of a chain of donut shops in California, earning him the nickname the "Donut King." While working a second job at a gas station, Ngoy took notice of a busy local donut shop and inquired of its operators about learning the business. [5], Ngoy was hesitant to return to California for the film; he was estranged from his children and former friends. The Donut King was directed by Alice Gu, and is her first feature film. They both drank and vowed to be faithful. 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